How to Draw Offensive Lines Hoi4
Are you drawing one large offensive line, or making several smaller ones and assinging only a few divisions to each one? I don't have a lot of time with the game yet, but it seemed to me drawing one large line with the whole army selected got things done better. let them advance to the new front and then draw a new offensive. Are you letting the plan get prepped before executing? Not sure if they do some funky default minimum prep time or something.
Do they execute the plan on their own if you just leave them for awhile? Divisions you have selected when making an offensive line should automatically be assigned to them after drawing it. They won't be assinged if you make additional offensive lines past that point, I think because it deselcts the divisions after drawing the first line.
8 Jun, 2016 @ 9:53am
Yes, that is an issue I noticed.. Every time? i'd say no..I set a front line in egypt and attack line from there way down by congo and my army was clearing everything down to the south by the first rubber spot.. and it got there by themselves.. Another army going from turkey for russian oil wasn't progressing.. Turned out they were suffering from supply shortage and ai waits to replenish divisions.. Checked supply map and built up infra in provinces that the line was going thru and they started advancing.. So idk why yours isn't moving..
If you zoom in on the line, does it say "X divisions assigned"? I've never had the problem you describe. When I hit the "go" button for the army everything springs into motion. Make sure you executing the right army as well.
Originally posted by Aries:
Yes, that is an issue I noticed.. Every time? i'd say no..I set a front line in egypt and attack line from there way down by congo and my army was clearing everything down to the south by the first rubber spot.. and it got there by themselves.. Another army going from turkey for russian oil wasn't progressing.. Turned out they were suffering from supply shortage and ai waits to replenish divisions.. Checked supply map and built up infra in provinces that the line was going thru and they started advancing.. So idk why yours isn't moving..
didn't think about the supply, that could be an issue too. They're not going to want to move on if there's no bullets.
11 Jun, 2016 @ 2:31am
Originally posted by sc2mails:
didn't think about the supply, that could be an issue too. They're not going to want to move on if there's no bullets.
After playing a few additional games, I think this was the issue I was having. While playing as Japan and trying to invade China, I didn't build enough infrastructure to support the supply limit that I needed for the large army I landed in the Korea area.
Originally posted by Kamikaze Snark:
Originally posted by sc2mails:
didn't think about the supply, that could be an issue too. They're not going to want to move on if there's no bullets.
After playing a few additional games, I think this was the issue I was having. While playing as Japan and trying to invade China, I didn't build enough infrastructure to support the supply limit that I needed for the large army I landed in the Korea area.
you get an icon that looks like an empty gas can and a notification on the right side of the UI when a unit is actually low on supply.
I've found out how the battle line actually works and maybe this was one of your issues too. You dont draw it as if you're drawing the arrows it creates, you draw it just like the front line but through whatever territories you want them to advance to and hold. Makes a nice, even, uniform attack. Troops will hold off or retreat as needed, rest and advance further.
Fighers are a huge neccesity too I've found. Whomever has air superiority can bomb more, and fighters are needed for superiority.
11 Jun, 2016 @ 6:55am
I'm almost positive that you're assigning them to the border and that although you create the offensive line you're not assigning any units to it. After creating it, select the units you want to be a part of it and ctrl+click on the offensive line. See if that helps.
Originally posted by Smash:
I'm almost positive that you're assigning them to the border and that although you create the offensive line you're not assigning any units to it. After creating it, select the units you want to be a part of it and ctrl+click on the offensive line. See if that helps.
As long as units that are on a front line are selected when an offensive line is drawn, they get assinged to it. Multiple arrows and division splitting will be made automatically. You could draw an offensive line at the end of a continent, it will make the needed number of fronts and split divisions between them.
12 Jun, 2016 @ 9:01pm
Originally posted by Smash:
I'm almost positive that you're assigning them to the border and that although you create the offensive line you're not assigning any units to it. After creating it, select the units you want to be a part of it and ctrl+click on the offensive line. See if that helps.
No, that's definitely not the problem. I did that several times and they still didn't advance.
In another game I did everything pretty much exactly as I did it before and I had no problems with the line advancing. The only difference in that game was that my army wasn't critically low on supplies.
don't forget to upgrade your mobilization level as you gen entrenched in war too, manpower is also a form of supply. My attempts at forming the great fascist empire of switzerland were dashed by this.
You are not alone in this. I have noticed it too, moreso late game than any other time. Hit execute and nothing, they just man the front line as they were. However, if I manually force them to a region in enemy territory once they take it it triggers the order and they follow the battle plan and continue advancing.
and yes as other people keep mentioning 100% the divisions are assigned to the attack order.
16 Jun, 2016 @ 7:07am
From my experience it seems to be a supply issue. If units are low on supplys this slows the AI's rate of advance considerably.
Also sometimes an attack fails, for example the AI orders multiple units to attack different points. If one fails it seems to hold back the entire advance and then the AI seems to spend alot of time reshuffling units. Manually attacking can seem to help.
Definately a bug right now. 100% of the forces are assigned, no supply issues at all. Playing as Japan, and I am trying to invade the Guanxi from puppetted China. No luck.
I have a guess that it might be caused by starting from a puppetted nation. Going to try the thing of ordering one unit and see if the rest follow.
"Armies cannot attack from a neutral country." China shouldn't be neutral, but I will see if I can get them in the war. They are my puppets after all.
Last edited by Starkwolf; 20 May, 2017 @ 5:01pm
Originally posted by starkwolf:
Definately a bug right now. 100% of the forces are assigned, no supply issues at all. Playing as Japan, and I am trying to invade the Guanxi from puppetted China. No luck.I have a guess that it might be caused by starting from a puppetted nation. Going to try the thing of ordering one unit and see if the rest follow.
"Armies cannot attack from a neutral country." China shouldn't be neutral, but I will see if I can get them in the war. They are my puppets after all.
Nice Necro, Bro.
NEVER rely on ther battleplanner AI, it doesn't know what it's doing. Every stupid maneuver you see the enemy AI units do, the AI battleplanner will do for yours as well.
Manual control everything. It's the only way. In fact, it's the best way. You can take on forces that outnumber you 5 to 1 and still win because the enemy AI's battle plans are so bad if you control everything yourself.
How to Draw Offensive Lines Hoi4
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